tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post7793354310148866572..comments2023-10-29T03:07:29.951-05:00Comments on left cheek: A non-letter regarding an Open Letter to an Open Letter for yet another Open Letter to Rob Belljasdyehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17492591447246532970noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-84569901596427866052011-03-17T17:13:35.575-05:002011-03-17T17:13:35.575-05:00Brian,
I don't think that is what Rob Bell is...Brian,<br /><br />I don't think that is what Rob Bell is preaching at all. There are many theologians in church history who espoused a view that fundamentalists would call universalist. But, as Jason points out above, the Good News is not about Hell, or even about Jesus; the Good News IS Jesus. Any understanding of Hell that a human has is only academic and requires the elevation of certain passages of scripture above others - the bible is not definitive on hell, whichever position you hold. Regardless, whether or not we follow and obey Christ is the point - not the specifics of what Hell may or may not be. <br />(It should be noted that the western understanding of "Hell" is very much a Greek based philosophy. If you study any Hebrew/Jewish scholars, it's clear that their believe in "Hell" (and presumably Jesus's, with Him being Jewish and all) was much different to what the conservative reformed view is today)dbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03557335178920881882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-65973709837006076602011-03-15T20:36:58.955-05:002011-03-15T20:36:58.955-05:00Ummm... It seems like the point of the so called N...Ummm... It seems like the point of the so called Neo- Reformed is being missed here. I don't hear them saying that we need hell to scare people to Christ. The point that I'm hearing (which I also hold to) is that we can't make up our own truths. Is the Scripture true? Or can we make God into our own image? Into how we want Him to be? The argument is that when we deny a real, literal hell which the Bible teaches, we weaken the depth of sin against God. We weaken the need for Christ to die on the cross. Belittling the truth of the Scripture for our personal views is what leads people to hell. A 'pastor' with the influence of Rob Bell is teaching thousands upon thousands that the Word of God is not the final authority. Rather, my personal opinion is.Brian Dyehttp://www.legacymovement.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-14099304132494976112011-03-15T16:51:01.783-05:002011-03-15T16:51:01.783-05:00Great post jasdye as a recovering 5 point hyper Ca...Great post jasdye as a recovering 5 point hyper Calvinist I understand the only thing Calvinism has is an old argument. Without hell and Pedo-baptism and therefore early brainwashing, as a system of belief they would be in bigger trouble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-27536314429467447922011-03-15T15:36:02.201-05:002011-03-15T15:36:02.201-05:00Speaking of being dismissive...Speaking of being dismissive...jasdyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17492591447246532970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-48883297372915053872011-03-15T15:27:18.373-05:002011-03-15T15:27:18.373-05:00What say you? I am a betting man, do you think rob...What say you? I am a betting man, do you think rob bell is making a unique point or not in this book? If he is, the concern is valid because of the marketing implies that If mr. Bell were pope he'd undo the doctrine of hell. If he isn't then it's kind of waste of time arguing about this and a waste of resources printing a book of little to no value to the christian faith but then again, it is a rob bell book so the latter follows logically. I bet that he's not making any valuable point and that he just wrote another book because the new range rovers are super awesome and he totally needs one. Lastly, this post runs against the title and slogan of this blog.tommy hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16298333466979177738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-64471654666983312412011-03-15T15:00:12.741-05:002011-03-15T15:00:12.741-05:00"such a great point that people by their mani..."such a great point that people by their manipulation and fear tactics are in fact only reinforcing Rob Bell's point."<br /><br />I'm not sure that you got that from me, CCC. I *wish* I had made that connection so succinctly! LOLjasdyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17492591447246532970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-64069725283954656152011-03-15T14:15:14.144-05:002011-03-15T14:15:14.144-05:00this is such a great post. Truly. I think you nail...this is such a great post. Truly. I think you nailed it that people are thinking that their theology is saving them, not Jesus. And that is indeed idolatry. And such a great point that people by their manipulation and fear tactics are in fact only reinforcing Rob Bell's point. I think what's even more frustrating is that "they" (I don't know how else to put it, as bad as it sounds) usually aren't open to having this logic and feedback pointed out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com