tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post1787909238362461686..comments2023-10-29T03:07:29.951-05:00Comments on left cheek: You're My Brother, You're My Sisterjasdyehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17492591447246532970noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-56644557054311746882012-03-20T15:28:27.950-05:002012-03-20T15:28:27.950-05:00Jasdye- I do agree that the Machiavellian man does...Jasdye- I do agree that the Machiavellian man does represent the bad, evil side of man. I disagree in the blaming of a system or a tool. And that is what capitalism is. What causes systems to fail is not the system, but the people who work the system.alliandrinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14538145647351156541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-6563829112844800582012-03-20T15:22:17.004-05:002012-03-20T15:22:17.004-05:00I hope you don't mind that I jump into the mid...I hope you don't mind that I jump into the middle of the conversation. I do believe there was in time in America where people did have a string sense of community and family, though it wasn't completely inclusive. I'm not sure what exactly what to attribute it to but I think part of it had to do with how we interacted with the world. Since then I think we have expanded our world view greatly and knowledge. But family and community connections didn't grow at the same rate.alliandrinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14538145647351156541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-76072248548971351972012-03-19T23:43:54.549-05:002012-03-19T23:43:54.549-05:00That's such a term ripe for the pickings, isn&...That's such a term ripe for the pickings, isn't it? So many implications.<br /><br />One being the open contempt for "lazy" Catholics.<br />Another being that, with this as a justification, one could see how the American myth of "Hard Work Equals Success" was started.<br />Another is how the continents first Protestants didn't know the first thing about work and nearly all died off because they couldn't farm and weren't used to ANY form of manual labor.<br /><br />I'm sure there's a lot more. I remember liking this term a lot, as it gave me a sense of pride about my own identity, in the same sort of way that I enjoyed Western Civil and the US's showings in the Olympics...<br /><br />That should say a bit, eh?jasdyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17492591447246532970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-49130126403553086332012-03-19T22:41:20.337-05:002012-03-19T22:41:20.337-05:00Jason, think about the political/ economic phrase ...Jason, think about the political/ economic phrase the Protestant Work Ethic, the historical context that birthed it, possibly a religious settler colonialism veiled in Freedom of Religion? I don't know but I see a pattern here with Capitalism.Rananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-88278456429844581502012-03-19T12:57:42.428-05:002012-03-19T12:57:42.428-05:00Right. But it still wasn't the type of raciali...Right. But it still wasn't the type of racialized slavery that it became in the New World, was it?jasdyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17492591447246532970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-69374148524669167242012-03-19T12:56:04.956-05:002012-03-19T12:56:04.956-05:00Absolutely, Rana!
Capitalism, I'm finding, is...Absolutely, Rana!<br /><br />Capitalism, I'm finding, is about the individual and - at most - the extended family. But even then, like in that tremendous family business movie, The Godfather, it warps the idea of family and estranges them from community.jasdyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17492591447246532970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-38199540282811437242012-03-19T12:33:45.584-05:002012-03-19T12:33:45.584-05:00couple of unfinished sentences
Curse my ADD and h...<i>couple of unfinished sentences</i><br /><br />Curse my ADD and habit of writing on the bus.<br /><br />I'm probably more for participatory economics (as, praecon, or The Economics of Happiness) than anything else.jasdyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17492591447246532970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-23928021957569260812012-03-19T12:13:09.939-05:002012-03-19T12:13:09.939-05:00And ironically, I find that the church has followe...And ironically, I find that the church has followed a similar model. Rather than *being* the church, church is something AMericans have managed to outsource as well and consume as we please in a detached, distant way. No commitments to each other, living life as individuals, not being in community, not living as parts of the same body of Christ.Rananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-43469178294850578132012-03-19T12:08:46.810-05:002012-03-19T12:08:46.810-05:00Hey Jason. I've been thinking about this issue...Hey Jason. I've been thinking about this issue, forgot how you introduced this on FB before I absolved you :)<br /><br />Anyhow, I've been thinking that capitalism has been an answer to failed community and that capitalism in some ways fails communities.<br /><br />On a relational level communities that do not have systems of capitalism are forced to depend on each other, get along, respect each other, etc for their very survival depends on it at times.<br /><br />Capitalism has afforded us to take off any responsibilities we may have had toward our communities and this is particularly exemplified with the Wal-Mart-ification of American consumption. We're blind to how our consumption hurts or blesses others. I don't know if this is unique to capitalism but it seems like capitalism certainly endorses, enables and profits from blind consumption that frees consumers from the needs and responsibilities of community.Rananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-22380953176410688922012-03-19T12:00:42.994-05:002012-03-19T12:00:42.994-05:00Interesting that a new variety of slavery in Afric...Interesting that a new variety of slavery in Africa was introduced by the Muslims, following Arabian practices. The Europeans entered into this much later.Marla Abenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12126432.post-48037035120815659092012-03-19T11:58:16.262-05:002012-03-19T11:58:16.262-05:00Good post, however you have a couple of unfinished...Good post, however you have a couple of unfinished sentences in it... Also, I'd argue that most get very little if anything at all from the capitalist system. <br />While I won't argue for communism I am vehemently opposed to capitalism.Mr. Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04552715349440138514noreply@blogger.com